During a recent Maxwell Institute Podcast interview
During this discussion, she made a brief comparison between Mormonism and Catholicism:
“And again, we go to the Catholic faith tradition. I was raised Catholic—I understand what’s going on here—and you have Christ, and he appears to be vulnerable and compassionate and benevolent, but he also says some pretty scary things, so what do you do? How much of the Father is in the Son, how much of the Mother is in the Son, and one isn’t seeing a huge influence there….But I can understand in the Catholic tradition why people, the Catholics go to Mary; she has become the intercessor. She’s completely taken over, for most Catholics, the role of Christ. And I think it’s because it’s difficult—there’s that wonderful scripture, “To whom shall we go?” I mean, the things that you’re saying, Lord, are really difficult and we really don’t know what to do. And we have this Heavenly Father figure who has been terribly misconstrued. And it’s also our own personal experiences with our own fathers; it’s much easier to go to the mother figure. She tends to be more merciful, kind, suffering, and empathic. But the injunction in the New Testament is to pray to our Heavenly Father. That is difficult, it’s a hard thing to do, so once we understand who he really is, I think that will make a huge difference” (21:52–23:13).
A thoughtful Catholic listener sent me an email after hearing the episode, taking exception to the claim that Mary has taken over Christ’s role for Catholics. Fiona’s observation, taken at face value, does not fairly represent the place of Mary or Christ within the Catholic tradition. Indeed, the Catholic Encyclopedia is emphatic
Taking a closer look, we might consider the intercessory role
The main problem is that Fiona’s observation can all-too-easily be understood through the lens of long-standing anti-Catholic accusations of “Mary worship
There are a number of crucial caveats that must be made in any such comparison, of course. For instance, this isn’t to say that Mary is a replacement for Jesus, better than Jesus, or that Jesus’s saving acts are not efficacious in Catholic belief—after all, the Eucharist (or as Mormons call it, the sacrament) directly places the body and blood of Christ at the center of Catholic liturgical experience. But perhaps, at least for some Catholics, Mary has played an intercessory role similar to that which Christ plays in other traditions chiefly in the realm of petition and prayer. But even in this, Mary does not replace Christ, but rather her status flows from being the vessel through which Christ was born, in addition to her eventually being glorified and assumed into Heaven.
Moreover, as the emailer noted, such prayerful intercession is not limited to Mary, but includes many women and men in a wide Communion of Saints
A more rigorous comparison would be fascinating. In the meantime, I believe Fiona Givens intended to convey the idea that Mormons do have a shortage of such feminine intercessors for a variety of social, historical, and theological reasons. She implies that this shortage has been one factor in the recent mini-surge of online discussion within Mormonism about a Heavenly Mother*—a substantially different figure compared to Mary’s theological place in Catholicism, but potentially devotionally similar in filling a need for connection with the divine feminine.
In other words, this is an aspect of Catholic devotional life that some Mormons may understand as desirable–something positive about Catholicism which the LDS Church currently lacks in articulation, if not in practice. To the limited extent that Mormons understand the comparison they may feel a certain “holy envy” for one means by which some Catholics have incorporated the divine feminine into their worship of God.
*Recently, the most conspicuous contribution about Heavenly Mother in Mormonism is David Paulsen and Martin Pulido, “A Mother There”: A Survey of Historical Teachings about Mother in Heaven